Sanders On Fantasy Debate With Trump™: It’s About “Two Guys” and Brotherhood

“You made it possible for us to have a very interesting debate about two guys who look at the world very, very differently,” Sanders responded.

The subtext to that quote is something like this:

Sanders finds brotherhood with Trump™. The fantasy debate is  about “two guys”,  two special guys, two guys who are different from the rest of the flock because they share a view of the world unlike the regular  people’s.

One could say that he seems to  see himself and Trump™ as the Jonathan Livingston Seagulls of this presidential election cycle.


I can hear Sanders’ followers protestations already: He challenged Hillary to a debate before the California primaries but she refused!; and they are right. But that’s not the point of this post.

What fascinates me, and to which I’m calling your attention, is the  spirit of brotherhood  in which Sanders, not Trump™, has framed his fantasy debate with Mr. Personality. He could have made the challenge without showing such kinship with him…and joy.

“I am delighted that @realDonaldTrump has agreed to debate,” Sanders tweeted on Thursday. “Let’s do it in the biggest stadium possible.”

Is like he is giddy because the cool guy in the class had pity for him and finally recognized him and accepted the challenge…on his own terms, of course.

He certainly doesn’t treat Hillary as his ‘sister’, nor enjoys debating her. He actually hates her guts, as do his berniebros.

We saw Sanders’ ‘brotherhood’ with Trump when he refused to denounce his statement that women who have abortions should be criminalized. Only a man without ‘brotherhood’ towards women could be so dismissive of such a dangerous proposal.

Brotherhood used to mean

  • feelings of friendship, support, and understanding between people

  • a group or organization of people who have the same interests, jobs, etc.

When it refers to male bonding, it is not ‘brotherhood’, it is just that: male bonding. No problem with that, but have the difference clear in your mind, because one includes women but the other doesn’t. And ‘brotherhood’ would exclude people who are totally against your main interests. Brotherhood with Trump requires accepting his racism, xenophobia and misogyny.

Sanders proved, with his ill advised public call to Trump to beg him to debate him, that he doesn’t mind budding up with this ignoramus racist billionaire. That explains his dismissiveness of women’s issues.

As an update: we saw how Sanders paid with humiliation for his brotherhood with trickster Trump. Brotherhood, to be efficient, must be reciprocated. Trump had no problem calling Sanders a ‘second place loser’. Not even SNL could have come with a funny scene like that.

The Men’s Card

That spirit of male brotherhood towards Trump™ is seen in many of Sanders’ followers and in segments of the American left, but not as much on Trump’s followers. That spirit of brotherhood is the men’s card to their exclusive club’. The debate, as described by Sanders,  is not about politics; it’s about the fun of two guys slugging it out, rolling down the mud to see which one remains standing after ‘killing’ Hillary. He wants a piece of the Donald’ show.

In my previous post I discussed how Cornel West uses the term “brother” to refer to Trump™.


…The only reason you, a Black man, may have found ‘brotherhood’ with Trump™ is because of what you have in common with him as a human being: a dick. Otherwise, explain how come you feel such intense hatred for that woman, Hillary Clinton, vilifying her and accusing her of all types of crimes without providing evidence, but you have absolutely zero feelings of hatred towards Trump™ ?

Yes, it shows my frustration with my ‘brothers’ on the left.

I was told that that‘s the way West speaks. Well, that’s the way the Nation of Islam speaks, and you ought to know that when they say  ‘brother’ they mean male solidarity, and when they say ‘sisters’ they mean inferior position as compared to the males.

This ‘brotherhood’ with racists men is not something to be taken as a quirk; it is sexist at its root.

Women have nothing to benefit from that ‘brotherhood’, nor do these men seek women’s interests. If Cornel West can find ‘brotherhood’ with a white man who thinks of women as objects, then what good is ‘brotherhood’ for women?

Women: “You have to treat ’em like shit.” (Trump™ New York magazine, Nov. 9, 1992)

Unfortunately, many men share those views, therefor their feeling of kinship and brotherhood with a sexist and racist white dude. Mind boggling is what it is, that humans are still behaving in terms of sexual superiority/inferiority.

A segment of our Black and ‘colored’ male society have historically sought the recognition of their manhood from white men. Black and minority men have suffered a lot of indignities as men from White men. One would think that today ‘colored’ people (I’m a ‘colored’ person) would be above that need to have white men recognizing ‘our manhood’.

Trump™ doesn’t share that feeling of ‘brotherhood’ with minority men.

Finally, it is clear that an interest shared by Trump™and Sanders is attacking Hillary Clinton and engaging in character assassination against her. This fantasy debate is the fantasy of uniting with Trump™ to savage her…and take the ‘debate’ as a job interview for for the position of Trump’s VP. (It’s not me saying this: many people have noticed how close Sanders and his supporters have come to Trump™.)

What would be the outcome of that ‘debate’? The two of them would agree on focusing only on attacking her and declare it a tie: no one wins, but both ‘kill her’.



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